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Power of the Parent 3: S3 Ep3: Natalie Costa

Power of the Parent 3: S3 Ep3: Natalie Costa

Today I passed the mic to the wonderful Natalie, founder of Power Thoughts. Natalie works with children (and their parents) to know they have the power over their own thoughts.Through talks, workshops, programs and direct support (not to mention the incredible social media posts and reels) Natalie is on a mission to combine the importance of childhood experiences with building resilience to support kids in responding to challenges and obstacles in a resourceful and individual way.

Previously a teacher and now a qualified coach, Natalie has worked with over 4000 children through Power Thoughts and it seems like the needs of her audience are only going to grow. You can find more from Natalie on Instagram or her website.

Episode Transcript

Charlotte Speak  0:06

Hello and welcome to Power of the Parent, the podcast. I’m your host Charlotte speak, I’m a level seven CMI accredited coach, a strength scope Master Practitioner, Mental Health First Aider and talent consultant and I’m also the face behind power of the parent. In this podcast I’ll be speaking to parents in the workplace. Some of them are in traditionally employed roles, others are running their own businesses. And we’re having conversations about life in general, insights about being a parent and having a career and exploring the strengths that parenting has awoken for people. We will talk about things like the value that they’re bringing to the workplace, as well as my guests very generously sharing their personal stories and anecdotes about everything life can throw at us.

Hello, and welcome back to Power of the Parent, the podcast. On today’s episode, I am joined by the wonderful Natalie Costa, Natalie supports children and their parents to know that they have power over their own thoughts through her talks, workshops, programmes and direct one to one support, not to mention the incredible social media posts and reels. Natalie is on a mission to combine the importance of childhood experiences with building resilience to support kids in responding to challenges and obstacles in a resourceful and individual way. She was previously a teacher and now a qualified coach. She’s worked with over 4,000 children through Power Thoughts. That is the name of her business, I realised I haven’t mentioned that yet in the intro, and it seems like the need is only going to grow for Power Thoughts services and Natalie services in particular. And having seen Natalie in action myself with one of my children, I am delighted to be able to speak to her today off of social media world. [Yeah.] So, thank you so much for joining me today, Natalie.

Natalie Costa  2:03

Thank you. No, honestly, it’s such a pleasure to be here. I feel like we’ve already met but I know we’ve spoken by phone, and we’ve chatted over DMs it’s so lovely to see a real-life person on the other side, finally.

Charlotte Speak  2:17

It’ll be in person one day, I’m sure it will be. [It will be.] I’m sure there will be lots of people listening who kind of know you and have seen your work, particularly on Instagram, because you have created such a community on there. The way that you talk to parents is so powerful and I know that you know your career history, and your approach is to be supporting children, but I know I’ve written underneath your posts on more than one occasion; “Oh my goodness, I needed to hear that as an adult.” And I spotted recently a few people doing that when I’m kind of reading comments and stuff. Is that something that you’ve noticed?

Natalie Costa  2:54

Yeah. Oh, definitely. I’ll often have parents say, oh, I think this is for me as well. This is actually, I know this is for my child, but this is for me. And I mean, to be honest with you, I very often, I also say on there actually, I’ve posted this for me selfishly, so it’s for me and for you as an adult, because I think so many of the parents that I chat to and adults, caregivers, you know, myself included, learning these tools when it comes to navigating our emotions, looking after our mental health, dealing with our thoughts. None of that was really taught at school when we were growing up, you know, and our parents did the absolute best that they could do, of course, but they didn’t have you know, many of these tools and insights. And if we look at, you know, parenting over the generations, and over the years, it was, it’s a very, very different conversation to what we’re starting to have now. And so, whenever I work with parents, I say, you know, you are just as much of a learner as is your child. And yes, initially, you know, Power Thoughts started with me supporting children, because I wanted to give children these tools, why do we have to wait until our adult years? But over the years, I’ve also realised that actually, us as parents and caregivers, we need these tools, because we’re still learning these tools. And so yeah, definitely, you’re not alone. When you say, you know, that whatever the post is that’s for me, because it’s inside all of us, you know, and I often talk about the inner child, and there are parts of us that we’re still learning how to navigate the world of emotions and understanding our own thoughts and our own feelings and that we don’t have to respond to everything we think or react to everything we feel so we are just as much of a learner as are our children. The only advantage is that kids get to learn these skills earlier on in life. So yeah, definitely for kids and adults alike.

Charlotte Speak  4:43

And I guess as well that world of being a coach, you’ve been a coach for a long time now, haven’t you? So that approach, I know that you have that niche of working with children, but the conversations with parents and adults is not like new news for you, is it? But the last couple of years has been, I’ve seen a significant change in the kinds of conversations that are coming up for you, or has it been quite steady?

Natalie Costa  5:06

I think it’s definitely grown over the last few years. I think initially, when I started Power Thoughts, it was very much when mindfulness was kind of like the buzz word. And I think, you know, we’ve also, if you think about mental health and mental health awareness, it was always our PSHE curriculum, and that was about it. And PSHE would be kind of moved to a Friday afternoon, you know what I mean? Like, it didn’t get, it wasn’t given a lot of airtime. Whereas I think definitely over the five, six years that we’ve seen a real increased need for opening up conversations around mental health, mental wellbeing. You know, in schools, definitely, but in the workplace as well, I’m sure you’ve mentioned, you’ve noticed that too. And so yes, I think there are more frequent conversations. Like I said, as I’ve started my journey, so initially, I started wanting to work in schools and just provide programmes in schools, but then obviously recognising that’s only a part of the process, that there’s so much more and actually, the people supporting the children, they need these tools more because a child’s attention span is their age plus a couple of minutes. So realistically, what they’re getting taken on board, they need that consistent reinforcement around them. And then that obviously led me to start working with parents, doing school workshops, and then recognising that parents can’t always come to the school workshops at school, because they’re working. So that led me to go to the corporate sector, so I’ll meet them where they’re at. And yes, you know, then through that it started, it really organically started with parents reaching out to me saying, I actually, what your delivering, this is real life conversations with parents saying whatever you’re putting on Instagram, I want those tips for me, like, can I have a session with you? And so, I think slowly, the sessions have kind of morphed into yes, I’m still offering children’s sessions, but you know, now it’s also sessions to support parents. And it is a common, it’s not pure coaching because I appreciate, you know, pure coaching, there’s so much value that you can get from that. But I appreciate parents are coming to me because they want some tools and tips. Now, I don’t claim to be an expert, I believe you, as a parent are the expert of your child, you know, your child, and that gut instinct overrules anything. I’m just somebody that’s got a wealth of experience and background and understanding. And I’ve got some tools and some of these tools will work and maybe some won’t work, as within anything. I have been playing around, I’m very mindful, I don’t call them coaching sessions, because it’s not pure coaching, but it is more I suppose coaching and strategy sessions, you know, where you’ve got, there are obviously elements of coaching. But there’s also going to be some tools and strategies and insights to support parents with. So yeah, I think definitely over the years, it has increased. And then of course, you know, what we’ve been faced with the last couple of years, I think it’s kind of amplified that especially as parents have spent more time with children, they’ve perhaps seen things in a different way. And obviously, just the challenges that, you know, the last few years have brought in as well, that’s kind of manifested in anxieties and difficulties and all of that, you know, we’re definitely not out of it, I think we’re still very much, I’ve always kind of, think of it, like, we’re on the hangover effects of the pandemic. Now, you know, we’ve been in it, but I mean, it’s quite interesting, because people don’t really talk about COVID that much at the moment, but just last week, I had three families I was working with that were off, home because all of them have it. So, it’s still taking place, you know, and people are still struggling at schools. And you know, schools are finding it a challenge as well. So, we’re still very much in it. I think.

Charlotte Speak  8:31

One of the things that you said there actually, I think is, it sums up beautifully how you work and my observation, as a parent, is that, so I would class you, I would describe you as an expert, or to have some expertise. [Yeah.] But what I love about the style that you have, it isn’t a follow these five steps, your child will be this, this and this, it’s here are five conversation ideas or all of the questions to ask other than how was your day? The stuff that you do around September time when they’re either starting or starting back, I adore; I lap that stuff up. I looked the other day in my, like, saved items on Instagram, it was just that I could have had a Power Thoughts folder really, because it was like, it was all in there and I can use them all the time. Because I think there’s one thing being a coach and knowing the art of asking questions. It’s different when it’s your kids, and it’s different when it’s yourself, isn’t it? So, I really adore that approach because I don’t ever feel like you’re trying to fix anything. I feel like it’s about creating this safe space to explore and figure out who you are as a parent and who your kids are and help you as a parent to help your kids, if that’s the right grammar.

Natalie Costa  9:54

Yeah, and I think that what you are and that going back to that word of expert, of course, yes, I’m an expert in what I do, but I think sometimes, maybe, there’s no one way of doing this. And that’s kind of what I mean, you know, and ultimately, some of these tools will work and some just won’t, because of the nature of your child and the nature of me. And do you know what I mean? Those sort, and you as a parent, as well, and where you are on that journey, and I think it’s, you know, and touching on that, there’s also nothing to fix. I think sometimes this whole, you know, the wellbeing industry can very much fix this, there’s something wrong, or something wrong, and, you know, and I often see this as a parent, what’s wrong, my child, what am I doing wrong, you know, there’s something the matter with him, and actually, there’s nothing to fix, it’s just we all need support in different ways, you know, and many times parents might come to me where they would say, you know, their children are having some sort of assessment, or they’re not quite sure what they’re, and I actually think, you know, being assessed or being given a label can sometimes be a powerful thing, because then at least we know how to manage our expectations. Because we get fed the thing of, we’ve got to be normal, and you get put into this box. And I mean, that’s a whole different conversation of you know, a child doesn’t pay attention this way and grasp information in this way and so therefore they’re ‘not normal’ in apostrophes. But actually, if I now then know, okay, my child’s maybe got ADHD, brilliant, now I can manage my expectations around that, how, what can I do to support him, and it’s a bit of a fine line, because then you don’t want that, you know that label again, or you know, I’m putting a label in inverted commas here to stop me well, because my child’s got this, and therefore, they can’t do X, Y, and Z. I just think it’s just as much awareness and information we can get an understanding that we’re all different and we’re all normal. Again, we’re all our own versions of normal, whatever that is. I mean, I don’t really like that word, but do you understand what I’m saying? I just think it is. Yeah, and there’s definitely nothing like you said to fix and it is such a fluid process. And it’s a process that as well, I think, you know, as I say to parents, being a parent is the hardest job there is, period, there is no school, no qualification, no, you know, years of schooling you go through to teach you to be a parent. You just one day you’re not and the next day you are, and you’re trying to figure that out as you go, and every child is different, as well. And yet, I think, you know, we can put so much pressure on, you know, parents put so much pressure upon themselves. And I just think it’s actually, where can we bring in the self-compassion and understand that this is a process. And sometimes it will be really, really, really hard, and the only way through the hard is through it. But you know, what can you, you know, what tools can you use to support yourself and your child and also have that sense of compassion as well, which I think is really what I see, you know, parents really struggle with, because they can give themselves a really tough time because it should look like X, Y, and Z because that’s what Instagram makes it look like, or that’s what society makes it look like or the WhatsApp groups, you know.

Charlotte Speak  13:12

It’s so lovely to explore it because I think I’m speaking from personal experiences, as opposed to, you know, anything else, I think you summed up so well what we can sometimes experience as a parent, and then I obviously come at it, if I put my parent hat on, I then experience that as a coach when I’m working with clients, because it’s never all about the return or it’s never all about being a parent to like an older child, or it’s so multifaceted. And we all have these kind of intersectionalities that crosses them as being a parent that’s why I really love that you have a growing presence in organisations because I think it’s such a huge part that we can’t leave our identity at the door and switch it off. And that doesn’t mean that being a parent is our whole identity, I don’t advocate for that in the slightest. But what I would say is, it is a huge part of who you are, because how can it not be? So, I think the fact that kind of working through businesses and organisations, employers, whatever word you want to put in there to kind of help have some of these conversations, again, to make it a common language to talk about. I think back to before I had my eldest, and I would see people get to work in the morning, who were parents. After I had my eldest, my brain was completely different and switched on in a very different way because I suddenly then saw these parents and thought, what have you had to go through this morning before you’ve got to work? Do you feel like you’ve done a day’s work before you’ve got to work like I do? Have you always felt like that, and I haven’t ever tuned into that before, and there are plenty of people who don’t have children that can have that empathy and that compassion, you don’t have to have a family, I don’t think, but that was the case for me. I did need to have the lived experience before I could understand it. But I think that whole narrative, that whole discussion about being able to bring your whole self to the workplace, involves how you show up with all of the different things that are behind you. One of those strands may be being a parent.

Natalie Costa  15:28

Exactly and I think that’s what we said before, you know, when I touched on it earlier that there is no, one day you’re not a parent, the next day you are, and then you may be at home for a while, and then you go back to work and your whole identity has changed. And like you say, it can sometimes feel like where in the book does it say, morning routines and meltdowns, because they don’t want to drink from the red cup, but they want to drink from the blue cup. I mean, one of the little girls I was working with, had told me very proudly about her meltdown that she didn’t want the blue milk, she wanted the green milk, when she couldn’t have the green milk that she had the big meltdown, but and rationally to us, as an adult, we’d have just drank the milk, right? But understanding, actually, you have it, providing parents with the space to understand actually what’s going on for her in that moment. And it actually has got nothing to do with you. Because so often then, you know, your children or your world, and we instantly all think well, what’s wrong with me? What am I doing wrong? The fault lies with me. Now, I’m not saying that that’s always the case with parents. But generally speaking, that’s what I find in the conversations that I have. And it’s actually about providing parents with the space to educate them and help them see this is what’s actually going on, and here are some tools and how can we structure that? And I think, you know, when you come off the back end of that, so you’ve now dropped everyone at school, and everyone’s in a bad mood and now you’ve got to go to work and put your happy face on and do this presentation. Yes, you can maybe get away with doing that for a bit. But I think so much more can be gained if you know, parents, and that’s obviously why I go into organisations, if parents have the space to A) realise they are not failing as a parent, when you know, they shouted their child and whatever has happened, because they’re just human, and you’re learning to work through those feelings to, but B) also providing them with a space to actually, let’s look at what’s going on and what can you do, what can you begin to do to help you, because we’re not robots. And we can’t, I mean, I even remember, as a teacher, you know, you’ve been told on my first day at my new school, and I was brand new into the country as well, so I was very, very fresh and very green. You know, you leave your problems at the door, and I understand where that comes from. But if we really want our parents to thrive in our workplace, and to give their utmost, they have to feel safe, when I’m saying not failing, what I mean is that they’ve got to have some of the support there. Because it can be a really lonely place when you feel that it’s just you and then you’re failing as a mum or failing as a dad, and you’re failing at work. And then, all of these are inverted commas as well, but it’s I think providing that form of support is so valuable. And that can only have a positive impact on all, whilst it might not have a direct impact in terms of, I go in and deliver a workshop. I mean, and I don’t come from the corporate sector, so I don’t know, but you know, workshop about performance, or whenever it is, indirectly, it will have an impact, because parents are going to feel better, the relationships are going to start improving with their children, the connection, they are going to feel better within themselves, not overnight. And that’s the thing, it’s not overnight, but over a long period of time. And I think, yeah, that’s where, you know, this form of support really plays a long game, in terms of, you know, how parents can have these difficult conversations and difficult, you know, they have difficult challenges. I’m just thinking of one of the companies I’m working with, definitely some really fantastic things that we’ve done in terms of consent. And I mean when we talk about consent for four and five year olds, how do you even talk. I mean, how do you bring those two together? These are things other parents came away thinking actually, this is a really valuable conversation and I’ve come away with tools to know how to support my children, because I mean, you know, you don’t switch off the minute you step into the office, it’s like those things still are there. So why are we not supporting our parents?

Charlotte Speak  19:19

I think it sends a really strong signal from an employer to say, we see this as adding value, we see this as important because you’re a whole person and there are lots of different entities to you. And actually, we know that if you’re feeling like a ‘failure’ in inverted commas, that does show up in the workplace and, and I see it a lot with clients where they will say, you know, I don’t feel like I’m doing a good enough job, I’m trying to be a good parent, I’m trying to be a good friend, a good son, daughter, auntie, uncle, whatever it might be, all those parts of our identity that feed in, I’m trying to do all of that, and I’m not doing any of it well. And it isn’t as binary as saying, okay, well, we just we do this, and then that will happen. There are lots of different ways that we face into some of those things aren’t there, and that knowing that your employer supports you, and it doesn’t always have to be really overt support, but it certainly helps. And I think what that then does, is pay back in dividends, people’s engagement, because you feel able to show up authentically. And when we do that, we know after decades and decades of research into things like positive psychology, the impact that that can have on somebody’s wellbeing and their engagement, their overall performance, and all these kinds of connecting the dots that I don’t genuinely think if I, kind of, look back over my corporate career, it was completely missing for such a long time, you know, you had one off events or keynote speakers that might come in every now and again and talk to you about gratitude, or they might, and this is like going back years so it wasn’t even a topic that had been explored that deeply. But that’s not where the work comes in, is it? We know, in both of our lines of work that a workshop is great, but it’s a start point, you have to have the environment around you to continue that kind of development and self-growth, I think, afterwards, don’t you?

Natalie Costa  21:22

Totally and I mean, it is if we’re looking at, you know, if I’m thinking of the kind of work that I do with parents, you are trying to create new neural pathways, new forms of thinking and new forms of reacting, you know, and disrupting maybe patterns that are there for years and years and years and years. And that takes time. That takes time. It’s totally possible. But it does take time, and it does take some work as well. And I think that’s where the ongoing support is so powerful.

Charlotte Speak  21:51

And I think that’s the other thing, as you were talking now, what springs to mind is that what you provide is, it’s tools that a parent can then go and have a conversation with their employer as well. And whilst you might not label it like that, I think it helps equip you to say, look, this is what I’m going through, this is what I’m experiencing, or trying to help my kid with this, to help myself with that. And it kind of sets you up for better quality conversations that as well.

Natalie Costa  22:19

Yeah, totally, totally. And I think one thing that I have found from the, you know, the work that I do in corporate is parents and, I touched on before, but parents feel like they’re not alone. I’m not alone in this experience. And I think that in itself has so much power. And actually, when recognising I’m not alone, and actually, they’re going through the same thing, that starts to nurture those networks as well, that they might have initially maybe missed or not been aware of. And like you said, it also, just like I often say to parents when I work with children, it’s the work and why it’s important that I have parents involved in the work that I do with children, either through the one to ones or the you know, the pre-recorded programmes that I’ve created is that it gives you both the language to know how to communicate about these things that you both understand. And I think equally there, you’ve just touched on, you’ve said exactly the same thing. I’ve not thought of it like that, but you know, parents then have the opportunity to communicate to their line manager about whatever it is, the challenges that they’re facing, and the line managers are able to understand that. And so yeah, I don’t think about that, that’s a good point.

Charlotte Speak  23:23

Put it on your website. That is something that I truly do think that it’s another tool that we need to be able to leave people feeling upskilled as opposed to overwhelmed, and we don’t want it to become wallpaper and like, it shouldn’t be about noise and do this and do that. And that’s I think, where your style and your approach comes in, in a really nice way. Just aside from corporates, the school side of things, and I know that your kind of not in the teaching world anymore. But that combination of, as in you’re not teaching in a school, I know you work with schools, but putting all these caveats on that, I’ll get to the question in a minute, the dynamic of school and all the things that you have to do for kids in a school environment, as a teacher, and what you have from, you know, a governing body or the government or whoever is inputting into that, your kind of creative licence as a teacher, you’ve then got the dynamic of parents and what they’re bringing to your door and like I’m tuning into some of this stuff. My eldest is, you know, has been in school for a few years now. My youngest is in school, and kind of starting to pick up all the wildly different things that teachers have to face. And it just blows my mind, really, of how much you have to go through as a teacher and what you have to be ready to support on. So, I’m really not entirely sure what my question is, maybe it’s more of an observation, but that I can totally see, I think, where the inspiration comes for Power Thoughts, because there must be things that you can do in Power Thoughts that you wouldn’t have been able to do as a teacher. [Oh, 100%, that’s why I left] that’s the question. We’ll settle somewhere there.

Natalie Costa  25:18

Yeah, I think, you know, and it was really interesting. So, I mean, my parents were quite like traditional, you got to go to uni after school, got to go to uni. I didn’t know what to do, don’t know what I want to do. I literally did this, my mom sent me to, I think was an educational psychologist at the time did IQ EQ tests and it kind of gave you a list of right, you can do this, this, this and this. And I love art, so I did A levels and GC- like a, A level equivalent back in South Africa. So, I did two art subjects, but it wasn’t seen as the safe industry to go in. Also loved human behaviours, actually if I think about it you know, since I was about 13/14, I loved understanding why people behave the way that they do. And again, so psychology is something I really wanted to explore, but again, that wasn’t very safe, because it just, what job are you going to get after that? You’ve got years and years and years of studying and then teaching came up. And I literally went into teaching thinking, oh, well, I could do art with little kids. That’s going to be fun. Fast forward when I absolutely did not enjoy teaching art to little kids because I’m just, I don’t like mess and I was like is this too messy, but yeah, so I got my qualification as a teacher. And whilst I loved working with the children, from day, from actually the beginning, that I just felt like, I don’t know, this is not for me. And I tried to talk myself into it and tried to talk myself into it. And my mom’s like, well stick it out to get out. And I was like, well, it’s a safe job to have, you’re always going to have work. And then I actually decided my second year of uni to do a psychology degree as an extra. So, I did that in the evenings and then I qualified to do my honours in psychology. And then I was like, okay, I’ll come over to the UK, because back then the thing was, everyone comes over to teach from South Africa. So, I was like, I’ll come and teach for two years, and then I’ll go back, and I’ll do my master’s in educational psychology. But that never happened. Because my dad’s Portuguese, so I was like, I’m not going back home. I’m staying here. But I always knew, I remember feeling quite stuck. Because I was like, I still want to go into the world of personal development of understanding emotions, I always used to tell my mom, I love teaching kids, but when I teach them what I feel passionate about, and in the nicest possible way, I just did not feel passionate about phonics and maths. And I just, that just wasn’t my jam, to be quite blunt. And I remember feeling really stuck and for a long-time thinking is this it, like, this does not light me up and, you know, trying to see, are there different things that I can do? I dabbled a bit in the fitness industry as well, so I trained to be a fitness instructor and I taught body pump and boxing and all those things. But again, I was like, I don’t quite want to go into that world because the psychology, understanding human behaviour draws me more. And then about probably about six, seven years ago, and I actively started looking at mindfulness; it’s a big buzzword. But what I do is very different to mindfulness, I do a lot more of the coaching tools. And the school I was with, actually sent me on a coaching taster qualification, which I loved. And then that made me think right, instead of becoming a personal trainer, which I was exploring, I was like, let me become a qualified coach. And for a while I actually wanted to become, to work with women making career changes. But again, that still didn’t quite gel, because it’s like something you know, when you’re trying to push through it, you’re like, no, come on, you know, and I’m very much of a pusher I will push through, I work hard. My gut was like, and I really try not to listen to my gut because like, loads of people back then actually said to me as well, why didn’t you do coaching with children? I was like, I mean, I was so disillusioned with the teaching world, and it really is sad, because I think teachers want to make such a great impact. Teachers, and I talk about head teachers here too, you know, schools want to make an impact. But then what comes up from up above in terms of the government’s, the requirements that are there, a lot of that, they physically just cannot because of everything that they’re, you know, supposed to do, all the boxes they’re meant to tick. And so, I initially was like, I want nothing to do the educational sector. I’m tired of the educational sector. And it was purely by fluke because I had come off a stress coaching day through the school that I had kind of got my qualification with. This is like an additional CPD day that I just did one Sunday. And the kids I was working with at the school that day, were really stressed out about their SATs, about 11 Plus exams. One of the girls were saying I’m never going to be successful in my life if I don’t do well in SATs and I’m like, it’s SATs, I understand this is a big deal for you but in the bigger scheme of life, nobody asks you about your SAT scores really as far as I’m aware, and just how worked up they’d get about it and then I literally on the spot was like right, this is what you learn. This is how your brain works and teaching them those tools and that really is where the idea of Power Thoughts came because I’d been searching mindfulness schools and I was like, this is not quite it because I want to go deeper than, you know, mindfulness teaches as elements, but I want to go deeper than that. And that’s really where the penny dropped where I realised, well, why can’t I start teaching children these some of these coaching concepts in terms of limiting beliefs? What is the limiting belief? Well, how do I break that down for children? So now we create our unwelcome visitor, you know, and I get them to create a character. And I mean, one of the boys I had on the call, you know, recently called his ‘butt brain’, you know, brilliant, when ‘butt brain’ makes its appearance, and helping bring those tools and make that accessible for children. But equally accessible for adults, too, because we’ve all got our own version of ‘butt brain’ piping up in our ears too.

Charlotte Speak  30:43

I quite like that name; I might call mine it.

Natalie Costa  30:48

So, it you know, that’s, and I think, for me, Power Thoughts was kind of born out of that frustration, because I wasn’t able, in the classroom, to help children in this way, because of everything else that I had to do. And I guess that kind of inner feeling, that gut feeling of like, this is what you’re meant to do. I think and I mean, 100% teachers, you know, I think it’s a really- because it’s, sadly, it’s a profession, I think many people go into, you want to make a change, you want to make an impact, but sadly, so many of my friends are burnt out, and they’re retired and they’re exhausted, and they’ve left and have done their own things. And the thing is, I’m not like, you know, not at all saying teachers need to leave, absolutely not, but the other side I see is teachers are so gifted and talented and yet, and I’ve fell prey to the story of like, sometimes it’s those limiting beliefs. What else can I do? I can just teach and I’m like you have got so many skills, transferable skills that so many people would wish to have. And it’s about seeing it from that light as well. I mean, that’s a different conversation but I think it definitely was powerful. It was born out of that frustration that I wanted to really teach what I’m passionate about, which is now what I’m doing.

Charlotte Speak  32:06

What an amazing ‘why’ and story and kind of, yeah, such a strong foundation. It’s so lovely to hear. Thank you for sharing that because I didn’t know all of that stuff. So, it’s so lovely to explore it with you. And actually, brings us kind of full circle really, which it’s a great place to pause and say a huge thank you for sharing everything that you have. I’m sure there are now going to be lots of people who, if they don’t already follow you on social media are going to be like, where is this Natalie and how do I get more of her in my life? Where is the best place to come and find you?

Natalie Costa  32:42

Yeah, so I am on Instagram. So that’s @powerthoughtsNC N for Natalie, C for Costa, my website as well www.powerthoughts.co.uk. I’m also on LinkedIn, so it’s just Power Thoughts by Natalie Costa or Natalie Costa. I think that’s it, just go by my name on all social media places people can get in touch with me.

Charlotte Speak  33:05

Amazing and I will put all of those links in the show notes, so if you are listening, you can very easily go and click on those and go get some Natalie in your life. Thank you again so much for taking part in the conversation. It has been fabulous.

Natalie Costa  33:20

Thank you, no, it’s been a real pleasure. Thank you, I’ve loved it.

Charlotte Speak  33:23

Good, take care.

Natalie Costa  33:24

Thank you. Bye.

Charlotte Speak  33:30

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